12 Inspirational and Exclusive Interviews on Yanko Design – Dr. Prof. Peter Zec (Part II)

As we close into Christmas and get ready for the holidays, it seems the perfect time to take a step back and reflect on how the year has passed by. Did we learn any lessons; could we have done anything differently and more importantly, how do we utilize the knowledge that we have gained through the year. While you ponder these thoughts, let’s add the Panama Story to our list. As promised, here is the second installment to Dr. Prof. Peter Zec’s interview conducted in Essen earlier this year.

The wealth of knowledge that has been amassed by Dr. Zec is easily translated and understood by listening to this simple children’s story. No wonder he always narrates it to his students. This special podcast allows you to hear the story in totality and Dr. Zec’s narrative is very easy to understand and follow.

Moving on, I have broken down the interview into two sections and this one addresses issues like Innovation vs Being Different and how important it is for a designer to understand that design is a service for a client. Only when we understand the difference between art and design, can we apply the business angle to this industry.

As we know Dr. Zec is associated with red dot and is the main driving force behind the awards. I have seen him do his bit for the industry up close and one of the initiatives that he co-created is the red dot young professional’s entry slot. Basically 50 designers who have obtained their academic qualifications within the past five years, have the chance to apply for one out of 50 free registrations to the “red dot award: product design 2013”. Any designer worth his profession knows how coveted the red dot product design award is, and this platform encourages young talent to get the edge just as they embark upon their designing career. Good thing is that the application for this freebie is tomorrow 18th December 2012. Details for the same can be found here. Good Luck!

Previous interviews in this series:

Hideshi Hamaguchi, Yves Béhar, Karim Rashid, Scott Wilson, Robert Brunner

-
Yanko Design
Timeless Designs - Explore wonderful concepts from around the world!
Yanko Design Store - We are about more than just concepts. See what's hot at the YD Store!
(12 Inspirational and Exclusive Interviews on Yanko Design – Dr. Prof. Peter Zec (Part II) was originally posted on Yanko Design)

Related posts:

  1. 12 Inspirational and Exclusive Interviews on Yanko Design – Dr. Prof. Peter Zec (Part I)
  2. 12 Inspirational and Exclusive Interviews on Yanko Design – Yves Béhar
  3. 12 Inspirational and Exclusive Interviews on Yanko Design – Robert Brunner


12 Inspirational and Exclusive Interviews on Yanko Design – Hideshi Hamaguchi

So far we have had four awesome designers share their wealth of experiences in this Inspirational and Exclusive Interviews series. Robert Brunner spoke about the core DNA of a designer/entrepreneur; Scott Wilson showed us how to rise from the ashes like a phoenix; Karim Rashid taught us his roadmap to success and Yves Béhar spoke about forging partnerships. My recent visit to the red dot award ceremony for product design at Essen, brought me face to face with the charismatic Hideshi Hamaguchi, the inventor of the USB Stick. Yes, the very same stick you use to store data, transfer files etc.

I could not let this opportunity pass up as I knew Hideshi’s perspective on innovation and design would be priceless and moreover his methodology and approach is so unconventional and inspirational, that it has to be shared.

To give you a background, Hideshi Hamaguchi is a chemical engineer and a math’s champion in Japan. He started his career in Panasonic as a researcher and after three years of working with the company he found something critically missing in the work environment and corporate setup. He realized that the company made no provisions to breed creativity. There was a lack of a logical approach to expanding the team’s resourcefulness.

Creativity for Hideshi is very intuitive based, however there were no concrete steps by the company to explore this aspect. He sought to formulate an approach that would expand his and his group’s creativity. And thus transitioned from a researcher to an analyst and then went to become a creative strategist.

I cannot draw!

Despite the fact that Hideshi has more than 120 innovations to his credit, it comes as a big surprise to me that he cannot draw! I had 2 Nikon cameras and an iPhone with me, and Hideshi, without naming them (confidentiality clause) told me that I was using 5 of his innovations at that very moment! According to him, if you don’t have the talent for drawing but are good at strategic thinking, then you can still become a great product designer. All you have to do is connect the design to the strategy and then turn into a language the company management people and the consumer can understand.

To sum up Hideshi, he is a creative thinker, a strategist, and an innovator who follows a process, which has a practical approach. His process theory is teachable and learnable, which is why he lectures around the world and conducts workshops.

How can people be creative without drawing beautiful pictures? What is Creativity?

You have to train yourself to draw diagrams and doodle.

Creativity is all about people’s mindset. Creativity doesn’t exist in the air. It’s in your mind, and even when we are collaborating, I am stimulating you and your outcome is stimulating me. To understand creativity we need to understand the brain.

Hideshi explains that the brain has two extremes: the structured thinking, which is very logical thinking versus the very intuitive and chaotic thinking. One side is focused while the other is all about exploration. The ideal balance between structured and chaos thinking is peaked at the sweet spot of Structured Chaos Mode, right on top. But this position is like a volatile ball that rolls in either direction, depending upon the individual’s inherent nature. To keep it balanced at the peak, you need to do something radical. From Hideshi’s experience the profile of moving from chaos to logical thinking to strike the structured/chaos balance, is wrong.

If the highest form of creativity is at the structured chaos mode, how can we manage it?

Technically there are two ways to manage it, first way: go back and forth between logical and chaos thinking, till you achieve the peak. Example, say I ask you to innovate a pen and present it to the red dot jury in one hour’s time. And after you do that, now I ask you again innovate the pen, but his time, I give you a day for it. The first day is to draw inspiration; the second day is to create some structures and ideas etc, till finally you give me the design. So stimulating the brain between the chaos and logic thinking, will peak your creativity to the structured – chaos mode.

The second way is to use a formula or some data analysis, example market size or market tastes for pens as a reference, and then combine it by drawing some beautiful lines that ultimately lead you draw some innovative features for the pen. So you make your brain use the logical and the intuitive side, at the same time. And thus you can hit the sweet spot. But in reality, you need to do diagram and you need to doodle to hit the sweet spot. Diagrams are something simple, something logical, and something visual. Draw the diagram and your brain goes to the logical side without being too intuitive, now to balance this you need to doodle. And this stimulates the creative brain.

So intentionally use diagram and doodling to keep creativity on the top. If you really want to have the highest level of creativity especially for a new idea or concept you don’t have to have the skill for drawing beautiful pictures, someone else can draw it for you. And the good thing is you don’t have to learn too many logical things either.

Since Hideshi is an innovator, I had to ask him…what is innovation?

Formula for Innovation : !? – ? = !

What – Oh this is the reason = Aha!

This is what Yanko Design is!

Innovation is all about creating new behaviors and new values for people. For example the USB Dongle. It created a new value of keeping your data on a small stick that was portable and new behavior, as in attachment to your data, sharing it with people and friends. In 1999 Hideshi came up with the idea for a client, of adding a tangible feeling for your data (he called it the sneak-kernet), we had that feeling for the floppy disk or the CD but it was time to move on to something different but no one agreed with him. At that time everyone thought that everything was going to be on the Internet and wireless so a cloud storage medium would have more value than this.

Even Intranet faced this issue. Hideshi and his friend are responsible for creating the first intranet in Japan. And probably the first in the world, it was done in 1993. He did it for Panasonic, where the board members were not so very computer savvy. If you see it this ways, intranet changed the behavior in people and the value for information.

Innovation is something that is something new; something that is doable and it should create controversy. It should create some tension in the conversation. One advice that Hideshi gives is that when you are brainstorming for creating an innovation; never focus on the idea itself, because that usually never helps. His focus is to analyze and see how people think. If you can analyze their thinking you can break the paradigm and go against their bias and thinking. You break the bias and push yourself towards the controversy thinking; this is how you break the paradigm. But if you cannot visualize the bias or the thinking of people, then you will not be able to innovate. You have to break the abstract things; you have to understand the way of thinking and visualize the pattern. If you visualize it, you can be a wonderful innovator. So basically you need to make a shift and break a bias, and this is the biggest barrier that innovators face.

Earlier in the 90’s the shift was focused only on technology innovations for computers, faster CPU, better inputs etc. but in comes Dell and they created a new shift with their business model. They revolutionized their supply chain, the customer experience and online customization of the PC. This was breaking the paradigm.

Engineer-designer conflict!

How to create a balance when you have to present a design or an idea so that appeals to the technologist and the corporation managers; in short how to address the engineer-designer conflict?

When we chart the Structured chaos diagram in a real life situation, unfortunately most of the population lies with the intersection of two structured-chaos loops. Majority of them don’t think super-structured or the other extreme of super-intuitive thinking. The problem is that we don’t have many people who can handle the structured chaos mode. Corporate mangers and engineers are more inclined towards structured thinking and designers and artists are more inclined towards intuitive thinking. They are two different animals!

And as he explained earlier, the engineers and corporate heads tend to use numbers and the designers use images; hence the dialogue cannot be bridged. They are disconnected and there is a lack of communication. But if we lay some ground rules, a common language can be spoken, for example the corporate manager should refrain from asking the designer about numbers and cost calculations, where as the designer should go deeper and relate a story rather than just talking about intuitive design.

Logical and intuitive people both can train themselves to move towards the balance sweet spot of structured chaos by pushing their boundaries and moving towards the other side of the graph.

The reason why Hideshi is ahead of his game is that while each person who he works with, specializes in their one field with total focus on it, and Hideshi has the ability logically connect the dots between innovation, marketing, strategy, tactics, uncertainty, technology and business model.

Special Thanks to red dot design, Germany and Dr. Professor Peter Zec.

-
Yanko Design
Timeless Designs - Explore wonderful concepts from around the world!
Yanko Design Store - We are about more than just concepts. See what's hot at the YD Store!
(12 Inspirational and Exclusive Interviews on Yanko Design – Hideshi Hamaguchi was originally posted on Yanko Design)

Related posts:

  1. 12 Inspirational and Exclusive Interviews on Yanko Design – Yves Béhar
  2. 12 Inspirational and Exclusive Interviews on Yanko Design – Robert Brunner
  3. 12 Inspirational and Exclusive Interviews on Yanko Design – Scott Wilson


12 Inspirational and Exclusive Interviews on Yanko Design – Yves Béhar

For the next in our series of 12 Inspirational Interviews, I speak with Yves Béhar of fuseproject. Yanko Design has been reporting his work for many years, but surprisingly this is our first interview with him! Going with the theme of this series, it’s my mission to bring to you meaningful lessons that no design school or institution teaches you. In his no-holds-bar conversation Yves speaks about taking risks, doing things differently and overcoming hurdles. Do you know why he is called the ‘Evel Knievel’ of design? I do! Read on to find out more….

A product, is a product, is a product!

Yves Béhar needs no introduction, so I dive into the interview with hard questions like why he designed the JimmyJane Vibrator! I mean, did he not take a risk or feel awkward? After all sex toys are not exactly on high-priority list for many designers!

“I have been interested in design products like JimmyJane since 2000 or 2001. I am always excited about product categories where design can make a huge difference and where the expectations are so low. In this industry, people are doing things that are so contrary to what the modern notion of good design is. High quality materials, high quality products were completely absent from this industry and so I have always thought it would be interesting to change it. My friend Ethan Imboden (of JimmyJane) and I finally decided to partner together. Initially we were supposed design just one product, but we soon realized that not everybody is the same or likes the same things. So we built a modular inner mechanism and designed it to fit different forms. There are different approaches to design the same thing!”

“A lot of people shy away from designing a vibrator but to me it’s the same approach while designing a high quality cellphone or high quality speaker. For me honestly, a product is a product is a product! It just needs to deliver. The fact that it is associated with human sexuality does not make it any more or less interesting.”

I guess Yves is being a bit modest here, but he was in many ways responsible for revolutionizing the approach and perception people had towards pleasure toys. He infused sophistication and elegance to the genre.

Don’t be afraid to explore avenues where no one else has chartered! Be a risk taker!

Risk taking has always been a hallmark of Yves’ work and how he approached clients and partnerships, even before he started fuseproject.

“I was a product designer in the Bay area and with product design; I was taking so many risks with projects. My focus was on making things more unique and standing out that they used to call me ‘Evel Knievel.’ They couldn’t pronounce my name, so Evel Knievel was my nickname even before I started fuseproject independently. Design is about risk taking and it can’t work without risk taking. I was working at that time Silicon Graphics, Acer and HP on GPS projects. All my works were worth the risk.”

I asked him to elaborate further on this….

“Design is sometimes undertaken 2-3 years in advance of a project hitting the market. So you need to be designing for a future market and future user experience. You have to project yourself in the future. So that means there is an inherent risk in what you design. If you are not taking risks, in my opinion, your project may not be successful. And if it will not feel advanced it will not feel differentiated, it will not feel like the next generation of anything. So risk taking is a fundamental line in our business and I feel comfortable taking risk in design and we have gotten very big rewards from that.”

A good example of risk-taking is the Jambox they launched last year. Nobody had thought it would be possible for them to launch a speaker especially since they were not a major brand. Between the design and the user experience and the onset of the mobile based experience, the Jambox became the number one speaker in the US in its categories.

Yves employs the same risk-taking attitude with his partners Jawbone and Herman Miller. Unfortunately not many companies are willing to take these risks with you. A lot of companies play safe but Yves thinks this a lack of vision for a leading 21st century based business.

A mixture of risk, talent and hard work is the right approach.

According to Yves, a designer needs to be creative with business side of design as well. It is not enough to be creative with the design side only!

“When you create partnerships there will be no set calculation, which means you have to listen a lot closer and understand better your clients business. How as a designer will you bring value and what that value is going to be worth if the project is successful. Every company is at a different stage and so it really depends how creative you can get. Most designers are very formulating on how they approach businesses, but the need of the hour is to get creative with this aspect too. The angle which they consider the boring part – the running of the company!”

According to Yves, the different approaches to partnerships are through equity or becoming a co-founder or getting fully integrated in the business. Getting some fee or retainer-ship or royalty is also essential.

“The mechanism has to work for the short term, the midterm and the long term. It can’t be just hoping for just long term returns. You have to be able to mix the different types of rewards. It isn’t a formula, it depends on every situation.”

Yves warns that partnerships are not about establishing a contract, they are also about establishing long term trust. “You can test that over a short period of time. You need to evaluate how somebody meets their end of the bargain on an ongoing basis and not just at the end of a contract.”

“Herman Miller and I have been working together for 10 years now. For me they are the design ambassador company of America. Sometimes it’s not about responding to a brief but coming up with a brief by yourself and for us it has become a symbiotic relationship where we understand and respect each other a lot. I have done close to 20 partnerships to date and I have to say that at least 8 out of 10 have been quite satisfactory on every level. The ones where I was not happy with, was when the founders did not have the experience or the courage to go all the way through with things. They did not have the foresight of how to be the CEO of their company.”

Did you know that Yves had to work on his drawing wand was a pretty average draftsman! The skills he had to work on were presentation, drawing and talking! Look at him give lectures around the globe, and you will find it hard to believe that he was once shy.

My only original talent is perseverance!

Parting shot : this profession needs new perspectives, so keep taking risks and be true to your work!

-
Yanko Design
Timeless Designs - Explore wonderful concepts from around the world!
Yanko Design Store - We are about more than just concepts. See what's hot at the YD Store!
(12 Inspirational and Exclusive Interviews on Yanko Design – Yves Béhar was originally posted on Yanko Design)

Related posts:

  1. 12 Inspirational and Exclusive Interviews on Yanko Design – Robert Brunner
  2. 12 Inspirational and Exclusive Interviews on Yanko Design – Scott Wilson
  3. 12 Inspirational and Exclusive Interviews on Yanko Design – Karim Rashid


12 Inspirational and Exclusive Interviews on Yanko Design – Karim Rashid

People know him as the man who has designed more than 3000 products, worked in 40 countries and winner of umpteen awards. Lucky Guy? NO! Karim Rashid does not believe in Luck; his mantra is perseverance, diligence and talent. Read on to know how this artistic industrial designer got fired from his job, reproached by his teachers and yet went on to become one of the most successful designers of our time. Proving to all that it only takes hard work, strong vision and a bit of business acumen to make it big.

Experience Counts!

Ever wonder how Karim manages to design in so many diverse design disciplines? He simply credits it to his decade of work experience in projects as diverse as x-ray equipments to power tools for Black & Decker to interior for a train.

Things have changed since I graduated. Back then, you would never think of going out own as a designer, it was more about finding a good place to work. In the last 30 years things have changed and there seems to be impatience in the youth culture where people feel the need to have success quickly. However, design is a socially responsible profession. You are there to make the world a better place. I think its better to think more objectively than subjectively. Think more extensively than intensively for what you can do…when I graduated I worked in Italy for a telephone company, then worked several years in a design consultancy in Canada. So basically I had 10 years of working experience under my belt and it added up to so much design experience.

All the diverse projects actually afforded me, that when I started my own in New York in 1993; I probably accelerated with success so quickly because I had so much of experience with working on diverse projects.

Karim feels young graduates should dedicate some of their time doing projects that are out of their direct field of passion. For example, if you want to become a furniture designer then work in some big corporation like IBM designing computers. Here you can understand so much about the culture of consumer goods. One can understand how corporations work and how marketing people are involved in a project. Moreover, one learns how to work with engineers, and gives you the knowledge of how to get a product from conception to the market.

Someone needs to design the cockpit instrument panel for a plane!

Although he admires Dieter Rams a lot, Karim has his own mantra for pursuing a career in design. He is a more in-the-present moment kinda guy, using current trends, materials, circumstances and mindset while doing his work. But if you need his roadmap, then this is it:

  • Perseverance
  • Diligence
  • Talent

The story for perseverance is quite interesting. Many know that Karim was a DJ and owned thousands of records, but do you know he was fired from his job as a design professor? Apparently his school thought that he was teaching the students way too much theory and handed him the pink slip! Undeterred, he packed himself to New York with just $1500 in his pocket and slept on his brother’s apartment floor for weeks before he could afford his own place. After living literally on a budget of a dollar-a-day for five years and striving hard to find clients and projects, Karim finally broke ground.

I had really great troubled to finding projects and clients and I persevered like crazy. I must have approached hundreds of companies in the US and I finally got my first job. I made sure that my one job was going to be the best work I do. It was very successful. It was for a company called Nambe in Santa Fe, New Mexico and they were producing tabletop products like bowls etc. out of cast aluminum, and they were selling to shops like Bloomingdales. I designed like 30-40 products for them. Several of them went into museum collections and are still in their product even 20-years later, they were so successful.

Although it was kinda my lucky break, I don’t believe in luck. I had reached out to hundreds of companies; someone was bound to get back to me.

Saturate yourself in the project.

Karim advices that young designers need to push the boundaries when they embark on a project.

Diligence or hard work or to be focused is when you are working on a project, and you push the boundaries. Many a times students have an idea and they only just do till the beginning of an idea. They don’t really push it to its limits and they don’t take it as far as they can. When you start on a project you must jump in the deep end, dive in the deep end.

Be realistic and objective about your talent.

The third thing is talent. Talent is questionable. Is it a part of your genetic makeup or is it a part of your behavioral upbringing. It is because of the influence of your parents. So if you don’t have talent in design you may as well try and do something else.

Designers are artists of real issues. We are not creating art by any means, artist is a selfish act and design is a social act.

However this social act needs a business mind to make it a success. So I asked Karim upfront, how do designers ensure that they are not exploited or taken for a ride?

Straight up, never do a job for nothing! It is amazing that how many companies approach me and expect me to propose work for nothing. I not only refuse but about 10-years ago I remember I put my foot down and told no matter how famous a company is, if they want me to work for them, they must show me some advance on royalties or some money upfront. And for me that is trustworthiness. They are showing their commitment to me and I to them.

The thing with royalties is that you need to sell a good amount of the product to see some money in your bank. Another loop is that you may work on the product for two years or more and then suddenly the client may decide not to take the product to market or is not marketed well. It may not be exhibited well enough or the right distribution channels and sales force may be missing. At the end of it you have done all that work and you see nothing! Karim is in the process of writing a book called “Designer Dye” and it’s a business book where a big part of it is talking to designers about the business of design.

No matter how young you are, how badly you need the project, if we collectively put our foot down then companies can stop exploiting designers. I probably started a trend because a lot of Italian furniture companies don’t pay upfront and I basically talked them all into it and now it is benefitting other designers too. It’s just that the companies have to get used to the idea.

I love Karim’s analogy on this, “If I go to the doctor and he diagnoses me I can’t say I will pay you only if I like your diagnosis. I have to pay the doctor regardless.” Creative people get nervous about money issues, but they need to get paid.

Design is a part of consumerism and thus designers need to be paid.

Karim explains how royalties works, “when a company sells an object, and the royalty is say 3%, the minute they sell the product, that royalty should be put in a separate bank account and say every 6 months to a year be paid out to you. Royalties don’t cost the company anything. Many times it happens that you don’t get to see the royalty and the company is using your 3% to pay their bills. The reality is that royalty doesn’t cost the company anything because they mark up the product. So there is no risk for a company. Period. When they pay you in advance its like them saying – trust that we are going to get the product to market.”

You will never be an industrial designer!

As a parting shot, I asked Karim to recount any particular incident in his life that was pivotal and can empower us to keep up with perseverance. This is what he recounts….

When I was an undergraduate I had a professor who kept telling me that I would never be an industrial designer. What he actually meant was that I was too creatively different from my class, who would be following the same methodology and approach towards design. Even in my master’s course in Italy, my professor there told me that I would never be an industrial designer, and I was hurt. It took me a long time to figure out that what they were really trying to tell me was that I had a mix of artist and designer in me and people who are more artist than industrial designers cannot tolerate compromise. Even the guy whom I sold my 22,000 records to said that with a name like Karim Rashid, I’d never make it as a designer!

What he learnt from these harsh deductions was to keep persevering and working with diligence. It motivated him to prove his detractors wrong and look at what this has brought him….name, fame and fortune!

Footnote: If you have an inspirational life story or learning message to share, write to me at publication@yankodesign with “12 Stories” in the subject line. Inspiring stories will be featured here on YD.

-
Yanko Design
Timeless Designs - Explore wonderful concepts from around the world!
Yanko Design Store - We are about more than just concepts. See what's hot at the YD Store!
(12 Inspirational and Exclusive Interviews on Yanko Design – Karim Rashid was originally posted on Yanko Design)

Related posts:

  1. 12 Inspirational and Exclusive Interviews on Yanko Design – Robert Brunner
  2. 12 Inspirational and Exclusive Interviews on Yanko Design – Scott Wilson
  3. Clicquot Loveseat by Karim Rashid